Conversation with s0m37h1n9fun at 21/08/2006 12:45:36 AM on deathz0r (aim)
(12:45:36 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: hey
(12:45:41 AM) deathz0r: hey
(12:45:45 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: its whatever
(12:45:48 AM) deathz0r: i know
(12:45:58 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: so.. about all this..
(12:45:59 AM) deathz0r: listen, i'll accept your apology and start off on another clean slate
(12:46:02 AM) deathz0r: provided you do one thing for me
(12:46:09 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: ok
(12:46:13 AM) deathz0r: get kilgore to remove my ban
(12:46:19 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: i cant do that...
(12:46:37 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: they made rules that ops cant remove bans set by other ops unless we've talked to them first
(12:46:56 AM) deathz0r: well, at least tell him that i had nothing to do with insulting his personal health
(12:47:16 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: i will.. 
(12:47:44 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: listen. i know i was a douchebag for a while.. but i really dont want to have that phase hung over the rest of my time here
(12:48:07 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: cause it seems everytime someone from ud has a problem, they go right to insulting me about all that shit that happened. and about me and raider.. ect.
(12:48:18 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: and its just getting old.
(12:48:21 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: :\
(12:48:22 AM) deathz0r: true
(12:48:52 AM) deathz0r: i have to admit, your plan of telling raider to permban DD is qutie over the top, wouldn't you admit?
(12:49:03 AM) deathz0r: *quite
(12:49:10 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: id rahter start with no grudges.. i dont know how anyone else feels about that. but ive already fixed a shit load of them with people
(12:49:14 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: actually, i didnt
(12:49:23 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: i just wanted him to stop rejoining and doing that
(12:49:28 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: thats why i threatened him with it
(12:49:46 AM) deathz0r: oh?
(12:49:47 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: kilgore is telling me he wants to perm ban him. but im telling him he just needs time to cool off
(12:49:57 AM) deathz0r: oh, so kilgore is around?
(12:50:15 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: atm yes. we were going over some greek
(12:50:46 AM) deathz0r: ah, i see
(12:50:58 AM) deathz0r: yeah, the whole grudges thing
(12:51:15 AM) deathz0r: i gotta admit, i orchestrated basically everything that just happened in #zdplayers
(12:51:27 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: oh.
(12:51:42 AM) deathz0r: got it all logged too, thanks to an idling user
(12:51:51 AM) deathz0r: but still, that's not the point
(12:51:54 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: eh.
(12:51:56 AM) deathz0r: i figured you were not willing to ever listen to us
(12:52:14 AM) deathz0r: if robbbb didn't tell me that you were willing, i probably would have kept going at it
(12:52:26 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: i really dont want to keep doing this with people.
(12:52:32 AM) deathz0r: what's that?
(12:52:56 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: i mean, this neverending batte which is like.. whatever vs.ud
(12:53:02 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: its pointless. and useless.
(12:53:15 AM) deathz0r: yeah, you see
(12:53:20 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: and id rather just agree to disagree about whatever we did disagree about, if not forget it all together
(12:53:23 AM) deathz0r: my problem wasn't mainly with you
(12:53:28 AM) deathz0r: it's raider's constant need to defend
(12:53:29 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: oh?
(12:53:38 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: to defend me?
(12:53:39 AM) deathz0r: and when i finally did convince him that i could ban you for justified reasons
(12:53:46 AM) deathz0r: bonzo goes and removes my ban twenty minutes later
(12:54:12 AM) deathz0r: the fact that i was a staff member and that...
(12:54:17 AM) deathz0r: wait, let me paste what you said before
(12:54:22 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: i see.
(12:54:24 AM) deathz0r: (12:46:37 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: they made rules that ops cant remove bans set by other ops unless we've talked to them first
(12:54:25 AM) deathz0r: that
(12:54:39 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: please do, im not sure i remember
(12:54:44 AM) deathz0r: ok
(12:54:52 AM) deathz0r: i logged it for raider and i still have it sitting around
(12:54:54 AM) deathz0r: give me a minute
(12:55:01 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: oh thats a recent rule
(12:55:23 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: its something they went over when i first became an op a few months ago
(12:55:26 AM) deathz0r: you're maybe right
(12:55:32 AM) deathz0r: this was when i still had ops in #zdplayers
(12:55:33 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: its just something they told me not to do
(12:55:34 AM) deathz0r: which, for the record
(12:55:38 AM) deathz0r: was removed not because of you
(12:55:51 AM) deathz0r: but because aca clone attacked zdaemon and i had knowledge of it prior to it happening
(12:55:55 AM) deathz0r: yet i was busy with more important things
(12:55:58 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: ohhh
(12:56:03 AM) deathz0r: of course, raider didn't care about that
(12:56:11 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: i remember that. thats why you were deopped??
(12:56:13 AM) deathz0r: yes
(12:56:22 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: oy
(12:56:28 AM) deathz0r: my knowledge was at least 20 other people's knowledge
(12:56:31 AM) deathz0r: since he said it in #unidoom
(12:56:50 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: well. i can see where youre both coming from there.
(12:56:53 AM) deathz0r: but that's old news, i'm permbanned from zdaemon for something i didn't do
(12:56:59 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: which is?
(12:57:08 AM) deathz0r: insult kilgore's health
(12:57:13 AM) deathz0r: shockwav3 did it in the topic for #aza
(12:57:22 AM) deathz0r: hell, i was sleeping when kilgore banned me
(12:57:31 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: i remmeber hearing that
(12:57:45 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: i never heard you didnt do it though
(12:58:04 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: hey, will you be around later, i kind of have to go to work.. but id relaly like to continue the conversation if thats ok
(12:58:17 AM) deathz0r: how much later are we talking?
(12:58:22 AM) deathz0r: it's 1am now
(12:58:26 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: oh 
(12:58:35 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: i forgot about the time difference
(12:58:40 AM) deathz0r: that's cool
(12:58:48 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: well.. ill be home at 6
(12:58:55 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: which is 7 hours ffrom now
(12:58:58 AM) deathz0r: ok
(12:59:03 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: im assuming youll be sleeping :P
(12:59:04 AM) deathz0r: i'll be awake by 7am
(12:59:09 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: oh alright
(12:59:11 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: ill be here
(12:59:13 AM) deathz0r: ok
(12:59:19 AM) deathz0r: catch you later
(12:59:19 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: thanks for trying to work this out with me
(12:59:22 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: be back later
(12:59:22 AM) deathz0r: no worries
(8:04:18 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: hey
(8:06:43 AM) deathz0r: hey
(8:06:58 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: so anyway. where were we
(8:07:15 AM) deathz0r: (12:56:53 AM) deathz0r: but that's old news, i'm permbanned from zdaemon for something i didn't do
(12:56:59 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: which is?
(12:57:08 AM) deathz0r: insult kilgore's health
(12:57:13 AM) deathz0r: shockwav3 did it in the topic for #aza
(12:57:22 AM) deathz0r: hell, i was sleeping when kilgore banned me
(12:57:31 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: i remmeber hearing that
(12:57:45 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: i never heard you didnt do it though
(12:58:04 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: hey, will you be around later, i kind of have to go to work.. but id relaly like to continue the conversation if thats ok
(8:07:25 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: ah i see
(8:07:38 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: alright.. well im sorry i assumed thats why you were banned
(8:07:47 AM) deathz0r: don't worry about it
(8:07:50 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: although that may have been just told to me to pacify my feelings as well
(8:08:13 AM) deathz0r: i didn't openly admit it at the time because i still had respect for kilgore
(8:08:26 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: oh
(8:08:55 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: well.. i can see where youre both coming from there.
(8:09:18 AM) deathz0r: yeah
(8:09:21 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: but i mean.. i just kind of want to bury the past. cause its just going to go on and on forever.. and its just wasted efforts on both parts..
(8:09:30 AM) deathz0r: i agree
(8:10:22 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: so i mean, ill try to talk to kilgore about it.. and raider. and if you could just talk to them.. the person you sent in there earlier :\
(8:10:40 AM) deathz0r: i can't make any vouches for anyone else
(8:10:48 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: id really like to just let things go
(8:10:49 AM) deathz0r: i can try, but that's about it
(8:10:57 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: yeah thats fine.. i cant do the same for kilgore and raider
(8:11:02 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: they have their own feelings and things
(8:11:09 AM) deathz0r: if you can get kilgore to talk to me, that would be great
(8:11:20 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: absolutely.. ill leave him a message
(8:11:33 AM) deathz0r: raider won't be any help because he'll just say "oh, i can't reverse kilgore's decision"
(8:11:43 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: yeah
(8:11:52 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: well.. in his defense.. he really cant :\
(8:12:57 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: but lets see what happens. and im really glad we're both mature enough to do this. i know it wasnt easy for me to believe something could come of it, and im sure you still had your doubts about me too.. but im glad we've sort of come to an understanding
(8:12:58 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: i really am
(8:13:07 AM) deathz0r: yeah, i naturally had my doubts
(8:13:20 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: cause i really couldnt take much more of what was going on.. and holding on to that was just doing no one any good
(8:13:40 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: so.. no more sending people in there? and we both kind of let bygons be bygons?
(8:13:46 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: (sp?)
(8:13:50 AM) deathz0r: sure
(8:13:54 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: awesome :]
(8:14:10 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: im really glad we got to talk.. thanks for being open to it
(8:14:46 AM) deathz0r: no worries, you too
(8:14:59 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: thanks man :] we'll see you around
(8:15:00 AM) deathz0r: one thing though
(8:15:04 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: sure
(8:15:05 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: whatsup
(8:15:20 AM) deathz0r: just before we talked, i sent an email directly to raider about your explosion in #zdplayers
(8:15:30 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: i see
(8:15:44 AM) deathz0r: so if raider says anything about it, just tell him to not worry about it
(8:15:48 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: just general frustration about it.
(8:15:53 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: well i cant do that :P
(8:16:01 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: if you could email him back.. that would be fantastic
(8:16:07 AM) deathz0r: ok
(8:16:12 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: cause if i say 'yeah i was yelling, but forget about it'
(8:16:26 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: he wont really be apt to forgive me
(8:16:34 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: thanks 
(8:16:39 AM) deathz0r: no problem
(8:17:29 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: :] im really glad how this turned out. i hope we can keep it on this mutual understanding.. although if something comes up, if you could talk to rob and have me sign on here, i'd be glad to talk about something thats happened.
(8:17:34 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: i see i can do that now
(8:17:39 AM) deathz0r: sure
(8:17:46 AM) s0m37h1n9fun: ok, talk to you later :]
(8:17:49 AM) deathz0r: ok, later