Session Start: Sun May 08 14:33:05 2005 Session Ident: CodeImp [14:33] hey [14:33] please respond [14:33] . [14:33] heh [14:33] i've heard a few unsettling things a hour ago [14:33] its 6:33 AM, i just got home, i need sleep :P [14:33] trust me, you won't be needing sleep just yet [14:34] what i've heard from multiple people is really major, and you're the instigator of all of this [14:34] apparently you sent out hacks to various people for "testing" purposes [14:34] oh is it about that [14:34] yeah [14:35] yes i tested a hack with TUD and Marine a few days ago and i sent the hack to raider so he could examine it and fix the exploit [14:35] few days ago? [14:35] so they have been using it in public? [14:35] yea like 3 or 4 days ago i think that was [14:35] well [14:36] marine handed it out to various HC members [14:36] i don't know who exactly, but HC-Strike told DevastatioN about it [14:36] (after ralph and i asked dev to ask any HC member about it) [14:37] omfg [14:38] however, we weren't even looking for what you sent to marine [14:38] well the thing is so obvious to see, if they use it youll know he cheats [14:38] we were looking for a different hack entirely [14:38] but strike told dev that, dev told raider that [14:39] but apparently you had sent out other hacks [14:40] no way [14:40] well, that i figured [14:40] just the one when we tested it, to tud and marine only [14:40] nothing else [14:41] well, i better fill you in with something [14:41] fill me in? [14:41] you see, i heard from a reliable person (who also does the same type of thing you did) that five HC members were using a wallhack dll that injects itself into zdaemon [14:42] probably bs [14:42] he had this program that could retrieve information about who had modified zdaemon clients, what the modifications were [14:42] and he sent me the program, but it only works for win98 [14:42] you cant over the network [14:42] hrm [14:42] the protocol doesnt allow that [14:42] hes talking shit [14:43] well, one thing the protocol does do is send information on keystrokes [14:44] anyway, more useless crap blah blah blah [14:44] a few UD members recorded demos of the accused doing behaviour exactly like wallhackers would do [14:44] "looking" through walls and other crap [14:45] but yeah [14:46] the hack i made can easily be mistaken for a wallhack when judging from a demo [14:46] when raider found out about that you gave your hack to marine, a few people assumed that you had sent out this other hack [14:47] because if someone comes around the corner, the hack will instantly attack the opponent, no delay, just stick your head around the corner and yer dead [14:49] well lets get this straight; i made the hack not even to cheat, it all solely came from the interest in the chainguns first 2 bullets and the autaim in it was just a funny addition, you know how that goes "hey look i can use that exploit!" [14:50] yeah [14:50] i sent it to raider right after i made it [14:50] so he could see the problem [14:51] heh [14:51] hc-marine is the most untrustworthy person when it comes to keeping things secret [14:51] i didnt make any other hacks or cheats and havent sent anything to anyone else than tud and marine [14:51] he has a link to the zdaemon 1.07 client beta in his profile [14:52] fortunately only danni and myself have the unlagged server code [14:52] fortunately marine is banned from zdaemon entirely [14:52] but he' [14:52] but he'll probably give it out [14:52] to even more people [14:52] i wouldn't be surprised if he did [14:53] well im sorry, my mistake i didnt know him that well [14:53] but you cant blame me for the things he does now [14:53] heh [14:53] thats his decision